tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post7554363858682878390..comments2024-03-16T08:21:16.037-04:00Comments on The DiaTribe: It Takes Two to TangoPaul Cousineauhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03490622970961409253noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-24423904505029810412008-06-22T10:37:00.000-04:002008-06-22T10:37:00.000-04:00Guys, Paul's right here. There is no way Cashman g...Guys, <BR/>Paul's right here. There is no way Cashman gives up the talent you are listing /c he loves his young players now. But something I wanted to put out there, this is just a rumor, but LA is shopping Kemp around. What about some deal with Kemp, and say Ohio boy Billingsley for CC? Just an idea.-Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07044430173909969823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-75646847396010861712008-06-20T12:26:00.000-04:002008-06-20T12:26:00.000-04:00Tabata, Kennedy, Jackson would be decent, maybe go...Tabata, Kennedy, Jackson would be decent, maybe good enough -- maybe.<BR/><BR/>Hughes/Cano would be a no-brainer, I don't think they'd ever do that either.<BR/><BR/>Hughes, Kennedy and Tabata (plus at least 1other b-level prospect) -- never happen, but what a steal that would be. That's way better than what they stole in the Colon deal.<BR/><BR/>I do think that there's someone out there that'll give up quite a bit for him, especially if the right teams are talking.Halifaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712626480683595819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-24144894313366392832008-06-20T11:18:00.000-04:002008-06-20T11:18:00.000-04:00OK, last September, we had a full glass of water. ...OK, last September, we had a full glass of water. In the first part of this season, I was looking at a glass that was 50% filled up with water, and I continuosly pronounced it "half-full", much like PTC, just trying to remain optimistic. Now the glass is only 25% filled with water, and it's getting real hard to pronounce it "A quarter full." Anyone getting this analogy? My key/towel might be turned/thrown in if something doesn't happen REAL SOON.Rockdawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15392724225649893240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-73465059447671334622008-06-20T10:50:00.000-04:002008-06-20T10:50:00.000-04:00we're 2 games in front of the royals. we're 8 1/2 ...we're 2 games in front of the royals. <BR/><BR/>we're 8 1/2 games out of first.<BR/><BR/>what THE HELL is going on!?!?!?!<BR/><BR/><BR/>:sigh:<BR/><BR/>not giving up, but getting sad.csusihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02575419830013173006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-73858353519984560832008-06-20T10:13:00.000-04:002008-06-20T10:13:00.000-04:00Bachs, gonna be in DC Sunday for the PJ show. Tra...Bachs, gonna be in DC Sunday for the PJ show. Travelling down with the Rhode-Man...Guz will be down there too. You should go...rodellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14464668223136752374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-797764099018849132008-06-20T10:11:00.000-04:002008-06-20T10:11:00.000-04:00Gotta love CC throwing in LA. Go get em Big Guy! ...Gotta love CC throwing in LA. Go get em Big Guy! <BR/><BR/>Sal Fasano. 'Nough said.<BR/><BR/>As we've been talking about the Yankees...I proposed a question to some crazy Yankee fans (like we are with the Tribe) that have good knowledge of things. What would they give for CC? Just to have some fun around here, here are some of their packages:<BR/><BR/>One said they'd give Hughes, Kennedy and Tabata (plus at least 1other b-level prospect). Some thought that was too much. I also think that would never happen.<BR/><BR/>Tabata, Kennedy, Melky/Jackson was another response. More likely than the first, although I would not want Melky.<BR/><BR/>Somebody mentioned Hughes and Cano, but said that was too much. I don't see this, even if we're giving them Barfield (whatever that's worth).rodellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14464668223136752374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-35746034119766033742008-06-20T08:31:00.000-04:002008-06-20T08:31:00.000-04:00Seeing as the Sox swept their interleague series, ...Seeing as the Sox swept their interleague series, the Twins swept their interleague series and the Tribe WAS SWEPT by the scraping Rockies in their interleague series I think the towel throwing is a very appropriate gesture.<BR/><BR/>Let's work on leaving CC at Dodger Stadium this weekend . . . looking at Kemp and Broxton and we'll send over whatever we have to to close the deal.<BR/><BR/>Speaking of which -- anyone remember the David Letterman film Festival about 15-20 years back when the video "Dress Cool" debuted and Michael Keaton's short film featured Clint Howard as a fishhead-dumping loser who ends up finishing off a commercial as a crazy salesman saying, "I'll bite the head off any rodent to close the deal!"?<BR/><BR/>Put on that bib, Mark . . . what's your preference? Rats, squirrel, lemming?Halifaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712626480683595819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-56542899730055044822008-06-19T21:14:00.000-04:002008-06-19T21:14:00.000-04:00Terry Pluto threw the towel in...hard to argue wit...Terry Pluto threw the towel in...hard to argue with the injuriesBaltimoranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08224994781147499885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-69815078234862000062008-06-19T11:12:00.000-04:002008-06-19T11:12:00.000-04:00C -- what do you think they'd get for him? I just ...C -- what do you think they'd get for him? I just believe that there's a team out there that will pay big to get him. It's different than the off-season (Santana) because teams are in position to really go for it and feel that a pitcher of CC's status can put them over the top.<BR/><BR/>Like I said, though, I'd guess anyhting involving Cano would (have) also involved Josh Barfield.<BR/><BR/>People made fun of me too when I said I'd deal CC in the off-season straight up for Phil Hughes. One, CC is not a great big game pitcher; two, a healthy Hughes would be decently-effective every fifth day in CC's stead; and three, although you'd get publicly criticized for making that deal, I'd rather have Hughes anchoring the lineup for 4-6 more years than have CC for one. That's why I think the straight up deal made sense. I also think Hughes is a solid #2 and would be a knockout tandem with Fausto at the top then followed by Lee, Laffey and Sowers you have a real solid staff.<BR/><BR/>I'd still do that deal straight up right now.Halifaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712626480683595819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-31157891892542058322008-06-19T10:42:00.000-04:002008-06-19T10:42:00.000-04:00ok, my bad -- it was uncalled for.No problem here,...ok, my bad -- it was uncalled for.<BR/>No problem here, forgiven?Halifaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712626480683595819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-85830587423033296442008-06-19T10:16:00.000-04:002008-06-19T10:16:00.000-04:00halifax my temptation is to rip on you. mainly bec...halifax my temptation is to rip on you. mainly because of your attempt at the tough guy mentality via blog. but, im gonna leave it alone.<BR/><BR/>ill be the first to say that the 7.5 looks alot worse for some reason than the 6.5 games back. but, im for sure not laying back and acknowledging this season as one thats over. <BR/><BR/>oh and the "suzy" comment you tossed my way. hilarious. really. <BR/><BR/>keep your head in the game halifax and lets keep it clean. we're in this together. <BR/><BR/>nothing but love to ya bud.csusihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02575419830013173006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-85931644833576870052008-06-18T23:29:00.000-04:002008-06-18T23:29:00.000-04:00BTW -- The Cubs, who already lust after CC, just h...BTW -- The Cubs, who already lust after CC, just had Zambrano leave a game with "shoulder tightness" . . . <BR/><BR/>too bad they got nothing to give.<BR/><BR/>Matt Murton and Felix Pie won't really get it done will it?Halifaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712626480683595819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-12390194387866743142008-06-18T23:25:00.000-04:002008-06-18T23:25:00.000-04:00CSUSI -- I would guess any deal with a pitcher and...CSUSI -- I would guess any deal with a pitcher and Cano for CC would involve Josh Barfield going the other way.Halifaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712626480683595819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-22940017206124379202008-06-18T23:23:00.000-04:002008-06-18T23:23:00.000-04:00csusi -- at least Hughes and a good AAA outfielder...csusi -- at least Hughes and a good AAA outfielder. And yes, I was. That was made to point out that if you get overwhelmed (apparently YOU were) you deal him now, if not keep working on it and at the deadline things will heat up.<BR/><BR/>The Indians are going nowhere this year fellas.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and thanks, Suzy, for the due respect. For a minute I thought you thought me was ignerant.Halifaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712626480683595819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-66126542095262455732008-06-18T17:34:00.000-04:002008-06-18T17:34:00.000-04:00i think even a hot streak which puts the indians i...i think even a hot streak which puts the indians in the thick of the playoff race should not 'scare' them from trading carsten's. fact is, he is gone next season. with the fact that so many of the teams prospects have begun to fall off the map or underachieve, retooling with some major league talent cannot be ignored, no matter the standings.<BR/><BR/>that said, i would not count out the red sox, angels, diamondbacks, and mets as teams that will put in strong offers to the indians in the coming weeks. i think acquiring a player like cc will surpass the 'need' factor.Brandon Heikoophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10264545057730343687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-83056641775810569632008-06-18T15:47:00.000-04:002008-06-18T15:47:00.000-04:00dude, i mean this in the nicest of ways possible, ...dude, i mean this in the nicest of ways possible, but hughes and cano? seriously?csusihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02575419830013173006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-35259135062112234062008-06-18T15:46:00.000-04:002008-06-18T15:46:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.csusihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02575419830013173006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-83226483442986116562008-06-18T15:09:00.000-04:002008-06-18T15:09:00.000-04:00I'm in the camp that says CC is gone, the division...I'm in the camp that says CC is gone, the division title is iffy at best, and this team is not as good (or as bad as right now) as we think it is.<BR/><BR/>I would deal CC right now if possible to get the best return. IF you can land the right package (i.e. Broxton/Kemp from the Dodgers or Hughes/Cano from the Yankees) I shake hands immediately. If not, keep plugging along to the deadline and line em up. This team is not healthy and is not going anywhere. Last year was the year the Tribe was resilient, overcoming every obstacle that came its way. This season they are overcoming nothing, and all seems to be going wrong. These things are cyclical and not what fills the season of champions.<BR/><BR/>Once CC is gone (and I would deal Byrd regardless, as long as you can get something useful in return) you let the young guys perform and fill the gaps. Francisco and Chootierrez have done very well. Remember how Grady got his break? They have to start playing sometime, and a CC move would infuse some much-needed young BLUEBLOOD into this lineup.<BR/><BR/>There WILL BE great interest in acquiring a LH reigning Cy Young winner that throws 97 MPH before the trading deadline. Shapiro and his scouts better do their homework. We'll see how this hand plays out within a few weeks.Halifaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712626480683595819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-71723716532924892622008-06-18T14:24:00.000-04:002008-06-18T14:24:00.000-04:00i like the cc to philly talks. the funniest part i...i like the cc to philly talks. the funniest part is phillies fans reactions to the idea. i admit that if i was gonna pull for an NL team, it might be the phils, but im not sure if they're brightest over there. <BR/><BR/>alot of the talk stems from the idea of us working out a cc for ryan howard deal. which, i wont get into, but just seeing that proposal/idea makes me laugh out loud. the thing is though, alot of phillies fans say they wouldnt do it. one guy labeled cc as a heart-attack waiting to happen. and alot of them feel that howard is in a slump. somebody might want to inform them that not doing anything for the past 7 months, going back to last year, surpasses the idea of a slump. <BR/><BR/>then one guy chimes in with a comical remark saying that "howards a moron. he wants a-rod money cause he thinks he's a 5 tool player like a-rod". " so, if any of you guys run into him, remind him that he's not a 5 tool player, just a tool".<BR/><BR/>anyways, in other news. are you guys at the point where when you see byrd as the given starter for the night, you go ahead and chalk up the loss? i have to admit, i might be. with everybody else, i go into the game with the mindset that if we hit the ball we will win. not so much with byrdie. i love him, but he's getting shelled on a seemingly consistent basis. im thinking he's the one that we need to be saying goodbye to.csusihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02575419830013173006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-13322665262880802092008-06-18T11:30:00.000-04:002008-06-18T11:30:00.000-04:00sog,I like the way you think - looking to add piec...sog,<BR/>I like the way you think - looking to add pieces, rather than shedding them - but I think I'd look for a reliever before trying to get an OF as Francisco and Chootierrez are doing pretty well.<BR/><BR/>I suppose if the news on Hafner is that he's done, a DH could certainly help (particularly a LH one) and Ibanez would be an upgrade over Dellucci in that regard.<BR/><BR/>Now that Bavasi's gone (as GM's around baseball weep), I have no clue what the new regime is looking to do or what they'd be looking for.Paul Cousineauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03490622970961409253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-34591849381412986312008-06-18T11:16:00.000-04:002008-06-18T11:16:00.000-04:00What about the M's shedding veteran payroll, what ...What about the M's shedding veteran payroll, what do you think it takes to get an Ibanez to make a run at this division?sonofgeronimohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02165298414607318380noreply@blogger.com