tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post9029757086519868478..comments2024-03-16T08:21:16.037-04:00Comments on The DiaTribe: Casey SundayPaul Cousineauhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03490622970961409253noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-8042919073157466392008-07-29T18:37:00.000-04:002008-07-29T18:37:00.000-04:00I think it is funny that so many Tribe fans watche...I think it is funny that so many Tribe fans watched yesterdays Cubs-Brewers game. I thought Yost must not have confidence to leave CC in through the 7th. CC was trying his old technique of over throwing to get out of the inning. We have all seen that fail in the past. I still think it was a good effort by him. Weeks showed the problems of bad 2b play.Mike C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09415604439964467685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-44169197006171575252008-07-29T16:49:00.000-04:002008-07-29T16:49:00.000-04:00again, "the point was simply that it was odd to se...again, "the point was simply that it was odd to see that sequence of events happen to another team." that was the intent of my comment.<BR/><BR/>regarding his performance, i'm not piling on. but he did put the previous 3 runners on base. (he also gave up 9 hits through 6 2/3). and i know about his complete games and i know what his pitch count was....but the fact remains he didn't get it done. and thats what i was commenting on.....a big game and CC not getting it done and riske coming out of the pen to relieve....and the game was not an indians game.Cy Slapnickahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10109399114263980881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-40040544336694274582008-07-29T14:02:00.000-04:002008-07-29T14:02:00.000-04:00Cy, WAY too harsh here. He only gave up 3 earned,...Cy, WAY too harsh here. He only gave up 3 earned, and with some "D" behind him, the Brew win that game. I'm not saying he "stepped it up" in that big game, but to say he "fell apart"...that is a little bit much. The Yankees "fell apart" a couple of years ago against Boston in the ALCS. Vandevelde "fell apart" at the British. The Mets "fell apart" at the end of last season. CC pitched well enough for the "W" against a great offensive squad, it's not his fault that Rickie Weeks airmailed a throw to first for the tail end of a crucial double play. <BR/><BR/>Not to mention CC threw 124 pitches after throwing three straight complete games.<BR/><BR/>He may not be wearing a Tribe uniform, but he's still my favorite player and I won't stand for people piling on, even though Cy and I agree about 90% of the time.Rockdawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15392724225649893240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-61100035270674330442008-07-29T12:15:00.000-04:002008-07-29T12:15:00.000-04:00its not bitterness, its reality. he allowed that ...its not bitterness, its reality. he allowed that inning to spiral out of control. and yes, i know he was at 120 pitches. the point was simply that it was odd to see that sequence of events happen to another team.Cy Slapnickahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10109399114263980881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-10849198821245057802008-07-29T09:42:00.000-04:002008-07-29T09:42:00.000-04:00Down at the game last night...Mujica looked GOOD a...Down at the game last night...Mujica looked GOOD and Hammy couldn't stop raving about him in the postgame. Hammy was saying that his splitter could be the out pitch that a back-end of the bullpen guy uses (a la Nathan) for the swings and misses.<BR/><BR/>RE,<BR/>Your wish is my command:<BR/>Cy Young award winners who pitched for sub-.500 clubs (team record in parentheses):<BR/>National League<BR/>Pedro Martinez, 1997 Montreal (78-84) <BR/>Greg Maddux, 1992 Chicago (78-84)<BR/>Steve Bedrosian, 1987 Philadelphia (80-82) <BR/>Bruce Sutter, 1979 Chicago (80-82) <BR/>Randy Jones, 1976 San Diego (73-89) <BR/>Steve Carlton, 1972 Philadelphia (59-97) <BR/>Bob Gibson, 1970 St. Louis (76-86)<BR/><BR/>American League<BR/>Roger Clemens, 1997 Toronto (76-86) <BR/>Pat Hentgen, 1996 Toronto (74-88) <BR/>Roger Clemens, 1987 Boston (78-84) <BR/>Gaylord Perry, 1972 Cleveland (72-84)<BR/><BR/>Interestingly, the Hentgen-Clemens combo winning the Cy Young in back-to-back years is the last time that teammates won the award consecutively, something that has happened 7 times since the award began, and is very possible for Lee to do one year after the Hefty Lefty.<BR/><BR/>By the way, Manny...no thanks. <BR/>Ron V. put a nice ribbon on why not.Paul Cousineauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03490622970961409253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-72712509188524719022008-07-29T09:12:00.000-04:002008-07-29T09:12:00.000-04:00Only bitterness would say CC "fell apart" yesterda...Only bitterness would say CC "fell apart" yesterday. Let's face it, he's as good as there is, but Fausto is a CC starter kit and Cliff is on track for the Cy Young, a very rare (Paul, how rare?) accomplishment for a pitcher with a sub .500 team. Let's hope we can get him four runs a game going forward.<BR/><BR/>Mujica for closer!REhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17803860060922533055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-67952066101743827072008-07-28T23:16:00.000-04:002008-07-28T23:16:00.000-04:00CC falling apart in a big game, Riske relieving, w...CC falling apart in a big game, Riske relieving, where have I seen this before?Cy Slapnickahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10109399114263980881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-10819535822548569572008-07-28T22:38:00.000-04:002008-07-28T22:38:00.000-04:00The last thing I would spend money on is Manny Ram...The last thing I would spend money on is Manny Ramirez' return to Cleveland.<BR/><BR/>His numbers are on the decline and his PITA (pain in the___) quotient continues to rise.Ron Vallohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01515792183023966479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-25579917416461290542008-07-28T14:33:00.000-04:002008-07-28T14:33:00.000-04:00fantasy land. why wouldn't we, thats just silly.b...fantasy land. why wouldn't we, thats just silly.<BR/><BR/>btw, if anyone knows of anyone in chicago with an extra ticket to the brew-crew/cubs series, i can be available for any game this week.<BR/><BR/>does anyone in cleveland have a slingbox they'd be willing to let me access for paulie's television debut?Cy Slapnickahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10109399114263980881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-17396673890608343792008-07-28T14:07:00.000-04:002008-07-28T14:07:00.000-04:00pc, you got to throw out a piece on this. until th...pc, you got to throw out a piece on this. until then, ill pose the question via comment:<BR/><BR/>.the money is free and there to spend<BR/>.we need a left fielder<BR/><BR/>with that said. will manny be back in cleveland soon? <BR/><BR/>what you guys think?csusihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02575419830013173006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-17057874744983418032008-07-27T22:17:00.000-04:002008-07-27T22:17:00.000-04:00Tyler,I saw those same reasons, but the fact that ...Tyler,<BR/>I saw those same reasons, but the fact that Blake is able to play OF (and our OF were...um...not playing well) and can play 1B (while the bottom fell out of Garko) while Marte mired is what really drew my ire.<BR/><BR/>Like you say, I hope that someone in the FO is in Marte's camp, because I'll put forth the argument for him if they're lacking for one.<BR/><BR/>By the way, got the DiaBride on some Boodles the last few nights. She likes it...eases the pain of Casey leaving her. Also, I like "Matt the Hopple" but am as unsold on it as "Matt The Door".<BR/><BR/>RD,<BR/>Tiko Duckett was on Fox 8 in the Morning...c'mon!<BR/>Looking forward to the call.Paul Cousineauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03490622970961409253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-73354210666689893172008-07-27T18:58:00.000-04:002008-07-27T18:58:00.000-04:00I would say "touring nationally" may be a bit of a...I would say "touring nationally" may be a bit of a stretch, but they have had gigs recently in Wyoming, Atlanta, and Minnesota. They are definitely making good progress.<BR/><BR/>Also, I wasn't trying to knock Les Levine in any way, I just remember those prank phone calls and how funny they were. Don't be surprised if you get a phone call from Charlotte in the middle of the show.Rockdawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15392724225649893240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-80884887379899223872008-07-27T17:25:00.000-04:002008-07-27T17:25:00.000-04:00Gotcha, Paul. I guess I agree and I don't. There a...Gotcha, Paul. I guess I agree and I don't. There are a number of reasons that the Indians could have sat Marte for April and May. I probably wouldn't like them, but I'll admit they were out there. And of course, at the end of May, the season was on the brink, and Casey was shaking off his horrendous start and turning into one of the better hitters on the squad. So if we were getting back into it, we needed him in the lineup, and if we weren't, letting him play while he was seeing the ball well could only help his trade value. It makes sense to me looking back on it, difficult though it's been to watch.<BR/><BR/>I bring that up because it has a lot to do with Marte's playing time and very little to do with Marte himself. So I'm still open to the idea that somebody in the Indians' F.O. digs Andy and sees him as a good option for the future.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12645578572957938828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-13439862560558493942008-07-27T13:04:00.000-04:002008-07-27T13:04:00.000-04:00Tyler,I'm not saying that I think that Marte has t...Tyler,<BR/>I'm not saying that I think that Marte has to thrive, my sense is that the Indians feel that Marte has to thrive to be seen as the likely 3B in 2009. To me, the way he's been handled this year as EVERYBODY else was given a chance to fail (and fail miserably) before he even sniffed the field on a regular basis is more telling than what the last two months contain for him.<BR/><BR/>I think that Marte SHOULD be the 3B next year (given the facts that you bring up on his age) ...I'm just not sure that the Tribe brass is on the same page.<BR/><BR/>Also on the same page as being happy that this has finally all happened and 2008 almost feels like it's already in the rearview.<BR/><BR/>Joe,<BR/>Fixed. <BR/>Thanks for the extra set of eyes.<BR/><BR/>RD,<BR/>Yeah, Les Levine...we'll see.<BR/>I have no idea if out-of-towners can watch it.<BR/>Why didn't you tell me that your brother's band is touring nationally now...am I that far out of the loop?Paul Cousineauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03490622970961409253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-64121913308795538802008-07-27T11:53:00.000-04:002008-07-27T11:53:00.000-04:00PTC...Les Levine?? That is awesome, is there some...PTC...Les Levine?? That is awesome, is there somewhere on line us out of towners can watch this?? Remember when Ryan Marrie used to prank Levine until Levine looked like he was going to cry? Good times...<BR/><BR/>As for the move, first JoBo is gone, now Kasey...Who am I supposed to hate now? I counted on these two to be a target for ALL my Tribe frustrations over the last couple years. For now, I think I will use Delucci and a PTBNL.Rockdawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15392724225649893240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-71095570665800612792008-07-27T11:10:00.000-04:002008-07-27T11:10:00.000-04:00I just wanted to note that Reyes is a RHP. The typ...I just wanted to note that Reyes is a RHP. The type-o above has him as a LHP.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13577940186096909858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11805401.post-16323411671614092872008-07-27T10:40:00.000-04:002008-07-27T10:40:00.000-04:00I've been calling LaPorta "Matt the Hoople" and I ...I've been calling LaPorta "Matt the Hoople" and I have no idea why. It's no "General Tsaowers" or "Stomp Lewis," but those haven't really brought their namesakes any luck, so maybe that's a good thing.<BR/><BR/>Not sure why you think Marte has to "thrive" to be considered our best option at 3B in 2009, barring another acquisition (or -- sigh -- getting Casey back). Hodges, our next best option, is playing merely well, not decisively great; it seems to me that at his age (only a year younger than Andy) he needs to show us a little Kouz before we can think of him as a big leaguer in 2009. So simply showing a good approach and discipline ought to be enough for Marte in my book.<BR/><BR/>We did totally fleece the Dodgers, to the extent that I can't really wrap my head around it. Meloan and Bryson make for some bullpen arms you can dream on, hey? And Jackson's been throwing well also.<BR/><BR/>RE: The Sabathia PTBNL, I'm hoping for Green, just out of middle infield need, or LuCroy, on the principle that you can't really have too much catching. Victor and Kelly are signed through 2010 and 2011, respectively; it'll be nice to have a couple of options at that point.<BR/><BR/>Fun stuff, as always. Part of me is relieved that, if the Indians weren't going to make it this season, that they chose to go pyroclastic from the get-go. It sucked, but at least now we get all these shiny new toys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com