The Diff
On a day in which the Twins’ “hungover” lineup (a day game after clinching the Central) can best the Indians…well, would you say “C” lineup for Chris Gimenez or “D” lineup for Drew Sutton and just a few days removed from the whole “the Tribe just needs to win one more game to avoid 100 losses” thing, the Indians’ season has officially bottomed out as even the most ardent fans are struggling to feign interest in playing out the string this year. Thus, while all of us would like to spend the day reveling in the triumphant return of “Fire Joe Morgan” to the Interwebs (for a day…and this is the funniest thing that you will read today), the sweep of the Indians at the hands of the Twins over the last couple of days has forced some serious reflection.
This is not “new” news, but the Twins captured their 6th AL Central crown in the past 9 years and while that was not an unexpected outcome in the Spring, how about the manner in which this 2010 Twins’ team overcame a mountain of adversity to get to this point?
The day after they clinched the Central, Craig Calcaterra summed up that “mountain of adversity” thusly:
The Twins lost their All-Star closer to Tommy John surgery in March. They lost their MVP candidate first baseman to a concussion in July. Their reigning MVP catcher’s OPS is down 150 points from a year ago. Going in and along the way there was much reason to doubt. In the end they become the first team to clinch.
Success was predicted for the Twins prior to the season, but if someone would have said that Nathan would have missed the year, Morneau would have been out since the All-Star Break and that Joe Mauer would have 9 HR with a week left in the season, where would you have placed the Twins’ chances to contend, much less clinch, even in a weak AL Central.
This is not meant to heap praise on the Twins (as the assembled Cleveland announcers and press corps has done enough of that to make me want me stick my finger down my throat) nor is it meant to proclaim that the Twins have figured out how to compete in an unbalanced marketplace, considering that they’ve won a total of two playoff games in four trips since 2003. Rather, it’s meant to put into perspective how the Twins have somehow persevered and succeeded, even with lofty expectations, when everything seemed to go against them, something that the Indians in recent memory (notably 2008) were unable to accomplish.
You remember that, right?
WAY back in 2008, when the popular WS Champion pick, YOUR Cleveland Indians were deep-sixed by injuries to Martinez and Hafner as Carmona completely fell apart and every single bullpen arm (notably Betancourt and Perez) worsened while CC counted the days until Free Agency.
Compare what the Twins are doing this season to what that 2008 Indians’ team did…and don’t you dare say that the Indians were “broken up” too soon that year because that notion is revisionist history at its very worst.
What is most intriguing about the Twins this year is how they got to this point and how, despite monumental mistakes in terms of player trades and letting players simply walk away, they have never failed at putting complementary pieces around their “core” group of players and the Twins just keep rolling on.
To look at the Twins’ offense this year, figuring that Morneau has been out since July and Mauer has been significantly less effective, consider the OPS+ numbers for what you would have to consider the the complementary Twins offensive players:
Delmon Young – 116 OPS+
Michael Cuddyer – 102 OPS+
Jason Kubel – 102 OPS +
JJ Hardy – 93 OPS+
Orlando Hudson – 93 OPS+
Denard Span – 86 OPS+
Nothing too impressive there (though I know that I’m omitting Thome), but even Delmon Young, with his “breakout season”, is sitting on that OPS+ of 116 after posting a cumulative OPS+ of 96 in his first two years as a Twin while the main player he was traded for (Matt Garza) has a 3.89 ERA (109 ERA+) in his first three years as a Ray. Even the auxiliary player dealt for Young (Jason Bartlett) had outperformed Young in his first two years (Bartlett's OPS+ for 2008 and 2009 was 109) as a Ray, so the Twins traded a front-to-middle-of-the-rotation starter and a serviceable middle infielder for a player whose “breakout” year involves 18 HR…and yet the Twins just keep rolling on.
Just to use the Young deal as an introduction here, it stands to reason that there is no “perfect” organization (and I’ll have you notice here that the Rays are about to slash payroll significantly in 2011, regardless of what happens in the playoffs), and the the Twins are by no means a “perfect” organization. To wit, the three players they acquired for Johan Santana (the winter before CC was dealt) that have played in MLB have all found their way out of Minnesota. Carlos Gomez was dealt to Milwaukee for JJ Hardy and Kevin Mulvey was the PTBNL last August when the Twins acquired Jon Rauch, meaning that the Twins have Hardy and Rauch to show for Santana not quite two years after making the deal. Beyond that, the team let Torii Hunter walk after the 2007 season, meaning that they had no return to show for him, outside of draft picks.
You wouldn’t know that from where the Twins have finished in the standings however because (and I don’t mean this to turn into a love-fest or admiration from afar of the Twins…I really don’t), but the Twins have soldiered on through the losses of Santana and Hunter (with little to nothing to show for them), the injury and long road back for Liriano and just this year have made it through Nathan’s injury, Morneau being gone for the last two months and the player that they just signed to an 8-year, $184M deal falling back to his career numbers after what could have possibly been an all-too-perfectly time career year.
As a quick aside on that “player that they just signed to an 8-year, $184M deal”, check this:
Mauer’s first 4 full years
.318 BA / .408 OBP / .451 SLG / .852 OPS with an average of 12 HR per 162 games
Mauer 2009
.365 BA / .444 OBP / .587 SLG / 1.031 OPS with 28 HR in 138 games
Mauer 2010
.331 BA / .407 OBP / .473 SLG / .880 OPS with 9 HR in 133 games
That’s not to discount Mauer as a player or his value behind the plate, but he is now 27 years old with his recent deal keeping him under contract for $23M per year through the 2018 season, at which point he will be 35 years old. While I’ll stop short of intimating any kind of Pronkian future (as we are talking about the Twins, who simply overcome adversity and the Indians, who are overcome by adversity)...they, um, they might that want that one back eventually.
But I digress and to get back to the matter at hand, the manner in which the Twins have been constructed is to rely on their middle-of-the-order presences (Mauer and Morneau) and generally complementary pieces around them to pester the opposition into defeat while generally average starting pitchers give way to a consistently outstanding lockdown bullpen, which has always been anchored by Nathan.
All of which makes this year so intriguing as the Twins have won without Mauer at full strength and simply without Nathan and Morneau for half the season. While it is true that Liriano has finally re-emerged as the pitcher that everyone was hoping that he would one day be once more, that maturation is not all that different from the roller coaster ride that has been the renaissance of Fausto Carmona. Liriano has unquestionably been much better than Carmona, but the rotation past him is a reclamation project that the Tribe pulled off the trash heap last year and a pitcher in Brian Duensing who started the year in the bullpen. Just as amazing is the fact that the bullpen consists of six (SIX!) relievers that have appeared in 40 or more games, all of whom have an ERA+ of 124 or better. Throw in the fact that a seventh (Matt Capps) was acquired mid-season and has posted a 193 ERA+ in 24 games and it becomes amazing as to how the Twins find these guys to plug in and…say it with me, just keep rolling on.
Going further, the amazing aspect of the Twins’ success this year is where those “guys” are coming from and where that production is coming from, and (just to keep this in the proper context and mildly related to the Indians) here are the Twins’ players listed by WAR (Wins Above Replacement), listing only those who have compiled a WAR above 1.5, and how each player was acquired by Minnesota:
Twins 2010
Mauer: 5.3 – Amateur Draft
Pavano: 4.8 – Free Agency
Liriano: 4.8 – Trade
Morneau: 4.0 – Amateur Draft
Duensing: 3.8 – Amateur Draft
Thome: 3.0 – Free Agency
Slowey: 2.1 – Amateur Draft
Baker: 2.1 – Amateur Draft
Valencia: 2.0 – Amateur Draft
Crain: 1.6 – Amateur Draft
Hudson: 1.5 – Free Agency
Notice a trend there, even among those “complementary pieces” that fill out the rotation and the bullpen?
You’ll notice that Cuddyer, Kubel, and Span (all also acquired the Amateur Draft) are not listed because…well, because they’re not having good years and if you’re wondering how much those three FA cost the Twins this year, that number is $13.5M, with all three players working on one-year deals and with Pavano earning the lion’s share of that money with his $7M salary.
For some (sickening) perspective, here are the Indians’ players listed by WAR (Wins Above Replacement), listing only those who have compiled a WAR above 1.5, and how each player was acquired by Cleveland:
Indians 2010
Choo: 6.4 – Trade
C. Perez: 2.6 - Trade
Santana: 2.2 – Trade
Carmona: 2.1 – Amateur Free Agency
Hafner: 2.0 – Trade
Peralta: 1.9 – Amateur Draft
Branyan: 1.6 – Free Agency
Outside of the alarming notion that there are only 7 players on this list (compared to 11 for the Twins), only 4 of the Tribe contributors are currently playing for the Tribe…but, really that’s an ancillary point. The main point lies in the idea that the Twins have somehow mastered the art of finding and developing complementary pieces that do their job and the players that they develop are kept around while they are useful (and if you’ve never noticed, the bullpen just plugs in new pieces and parts with somebody making an incredibly fortuitous decision as to when to hold onto a particular player or let one go), they are also cheap and under club control because they’ve been drafted and developed by the club.
Perhaps if the Indians of the past few years had those complementary pieces to plug in, the lifeline of the Tribe may have taken a different path, but that’s a topic that’s been beaten to death, exhumed, and given the ol’ “once over” again…
Maybe Gardenhire does have something to do with all of this (and Posnanski never hesitates to posit that opinion), but what the Twins have done is not live from one “window of contention” to the next as most other small-market teams have done. They’ve drafted well, were the beneficiaries of incredibly fortunate to draft Joe Mauer with the #1 overall pick, and added pieces and parts to what looks to be a machine capable of finding spare parts to replace what looked to be irreplaceable parts.
Whether any of the good fortune and amazing perseverance that the Twins have shown this year will translate to the playoffs (and it should be pointed out that the Twins are 46-20 against the AL Central and 38-30 against the rest of the AL this year and were 46-27 against the AL Central and 29-43 against the rest of the AL last year) remains to be seen as the Twins represent the small-market model by which a team strives to contend year with the idea that “anything can happen in the playoffs” not quite bearing fruit for them.
Meanwhile in Cleveland, the strategy seems to fall more in line with the idea to load it all up for one run, with the idea that the team will be built to succeed not only in the postseason, but to line up with the superpowers of the AL and stare them in the eye.
Ultimately, the Indians have won more playoff series (one) than the Twins in the past eight years, despite making it to the playoffs only once to the Twins’ four trips, with Minnesota’s fifth trip coming the next few weeks. While neither teams’ “strategy” has resulted in the achievement of the ultimate goal, watching the Indians and Twins (the teams, not the strategies) face off on the field this week, there should be no question as to which most fans would prefer.
9 comments:
Yet the fact remains, as you have pointed out, that if the Indians had not wasted an entire decade + of draft choices they would not be dismal and would at least be more competitive in their build-up years as this one.
I think the point that is overlooked in this story is that while the Twins have been consistently winning over the last decade, they actually built their model around the Tribe of the 90s, with the idea that let's get to the playoffs and see what can happen. Well, like that version of the Tribe, and not even as successfully, they have failed miserably in the playoffs in comparison. Now they have duplicated the model right down to the new stadium that creates excitement for the community about their team.
Unfortunately, for the Twins, tey do not have the pitching to compete with the Rays and Yankees (sorry Texas), so this season will be yet another quick exit for the Twinkees.
I love the Twins team, I like Gardenhire as a manager, but the fact remains that the Twins are the new Oakland A's of this decade. The one thing that differentiates the Twins from the Tribe is that their local economy is not decimated as Ohio has been, which has really limited the Tribe's ability to be a player in the FA market. The Twins picked up a considerable amount of talent in Thome, Hardy and Hudson (put that trio in the Tribe lineup and see what that does for your team), but the Indians can ill-afford to make that kind of investment right now. Even in the nineties, with all the tremendous talent they had the Indians still added Dennis Martinez, Orel Hershiser, Eddie Murray and Tony Pena as well as Travis Fryman and Matt Williams to the mix, without which they may have still won some central titles but could not have made it to the series.
Clearly there are many variables that impact an organization's ability to compete, and right now thew Indians are approaching it in windows, because bad drafts and a worse economy have put them in that box along with Travis Hafner's bad contract.
Unfortunately, for the Twins, they better win now because their hopes still ride on two talented left-handed bats, and one makes 20M a year in a position where players age more quickly, and the fact that Mauer has already been slightly injury prone it doesn't make it look very promising. So as the Twins continue to make the playoffs built on the Tribe model of the 90s, that too will come full circle as the Mauer contract becomes their Pronk albatross and hamstrings them into mediocrity.
I love your writing and love your commentary about the Indians but Paul, please. We may actually be living the first time in Indians history (okay, my 37 years) that the Tribe has drafted well. Your memory of those 1990s teams are awfully... well... misleading. Shall we? A few key players:
Lofton: trade
Baerga: trade
Vizquel: trade
Alomar (Sandy): trade
Belle: draft
Ramirez: draft
Thome: draft
Murray: free agency
Martinez: free agency
Hershiser: free agency
Mesa: trade
Assenmacher: free agency?
Plunk: free agency?
Nagy: draft
Alomar (Roberto): free agency
Fryman: free agency
Williams: trade
What is that? 4 drafted and an awful lot of free agents? Seems to me we won the free agency (and trade) jackpot there.
Elia,
We've drafted well recently...when?
In the last 3 years?
I suppose I'd like to believe that (even more than probably anybody else), but I'll wait to pass judgment on The Chiz and Kipnis and White when they get up here to call any of them successes.
Atom Miller and Mike Aubrey have taught me that much.
At no point did I bring up the 1990's, but if you look at the players that were drafted, that would be two likely HOFers and the #1 pitcher on the team as well as the most feared hitter in the league for about four years. You're also forgetting that the likes of Giles and Casey were dealt to make the types of trades that these Indians don't where they trade their prospects for veteran pieces.
Nevertheless, the point of the whole piece was to assert that the Indians failure to produce suitable internal replacements in 2008 and 2009 leave the team where it is today. I'll stand by that and would like to see some evidence to debunk that notion based on the team's draft results from 2000 to today.
Well written.
I agree wholeheartedly with your overall thesis, but I have a few quibbles with some points.
"Everything seemed to go against them", yet Calcaterra only lists three things. Supposedly, one is losing Nathan. Really? Even though an experienced Rauch was on the roster at the time? And the difficulty of racking up saves is wildly overstated (*cough* Borowski *cough*)?
Losing Morneau was difficult, but the Twins are actually (and, I admit, coincidentally) a much better team since he's been out. Not to minimize a head injury, but he managed to put up nearly 350 PA of 1.055 OPS before he got hurt. A lot of teams would gladly accept such a Faustian bargain.
As for Mauer's OPS being lower, as you said, it's down from otherworldly heights last year. 9 HR or not, the man is still slugging .473. As a catcher. In "the year of the pitcher."
Again, I don't mean to minimize the impact of injuries on the afflicted players, particularly Morneau, whose concussion this year and back last year raise serious questions about his post-MLB quality of life. But I'd *love* to experience a Tribe season where the team's adversities can be enumerated on one hand and consist of:
A serious injury at a position of surfeit.
A key player done for the year after posting a 5+ WAR.
Another key player being merely outstanding instead of absolutely unreal.
Anyway, I also agree that the Twins love in the Cleveland media seems overblown. I can remember Kenny Roda in the late 90s shouting at the Indians to take down the "champions" banners on the fences because the team hadn't "won anything." Now, getting bounced from the playoffs in the first round is a worthy achievement?
Halifax:
Re your point about adding Thome, Hudson, and Hardy to the Tribe lineup: I concede that Thome would've been a fine addition as a platoon DH (if Hafner weren't around). But Hudson v. Donald is a tossup offensively, and while Hardy vs. Cabrera goes to the Twins, it's still a battle of disappointments.
Only defense tilts the MIF comparison decisively towards the Twins. Donald and especially the steadily worsening Cabrera are putting up frighteningly bad UZR numbers, much worse than Hudson/Hardy.
And whether or not they could "ill-afford" it, credible reports had the Tribe making a competitive offer to Hudson last off-season.
Credible reports the Tribe made ONE credible offer to Hudson, not all three.
And don't underestimate the value of seasoned veteran play on a team full of players with little or no experience in the majors. The addition of three legit major league ballplayers that have seen success would make a HUGE impact on this team, just as getting a healthy Grady back next year hopefully will.
But making a big push for all three would've meant a willingness to eat the Hafner contract and trade Cabrera or relegate him to UIF status after a 113 OPS+ year. The FO would love to do the former, but the latter move would've been pretty ballsy. I can't fault them for not predicting Asdrubal would suddenly become Frank Duffy at the plate and a statue of Frank Duffy in the field.
And I guess I'm unclear as to where the line between "seasoned veteran" and "retread" lies. People trumpet one and bemoan the other, but it seems to me it boils down to how they perform once they're acquired and then the label is applied retroactively. I'll take a minor league F.A. or a 10 year veteran of multiple awful teams if they can reasonably be expected to add value. All things being equal, though, yeah, a little W.S. bling doesn't hurt.
I'd love to see a healthy Grady come back next year, but if past is prologue with this franchise, we should all prepare for setback after setback. Sigh.
Great Commentary. We can all look at the poor drafting for the Cleveland Indians from 1998/1999 or so-2006 (stop at 2005 out of fairness to allow time for development) as a direct reason for our current predicament.
Although, a team doesn't need to bring a high quantity of guys up from their system, they need to bring up an impact arm or bat every couple of years in conjunction with a few average guys.
The Tribe has failed in landing an impact arm or bat out of the amatuer draft since Manny Ramirez/Jim Thome and CC Sabathia.
The marginal guys have slipped to below mediocre instead of elavating to consistent performers (Garko, Sowers, Huff, Francisco, Laffey, Lewis...etc).
Let's hope that the return on the last three amatuer drafts (2008-2010) along with the players acquired in the CC/Lee/Vmart trades gel together and bring some excitement back to Cleveland, sooner rather than later.
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