Prospecting on a Lazy Sunday: System Overview and Prospects #40-36
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Perhaps
the most oft-repeated phrase this time of year, as teams report to Arizona and
Florida and begin playing something that is the closest thing to baseball that
we’ve all seen in the last 6 months, it is often said that “hope springs
eternal”. And the reason for that is not
just because every team has the same regular season record at this point or
because every player is reporting to Spring Training is the “Best Shape of His
Life”, but because the beginning of Spring Training often coincides with varied
Top Prospect lists that seem to fly at us with increasing regularity, causing
us to dream about what the 2017 OF or starting rotation could look like,
largely based on these “lists” of names of 18-to-22 year-olds.
Some
of these “lists” are largely regurgitations of other “lists” and others are so
dependent upon one “source” without any other comparable (and often dissenting)
point of view that they become so rosy that all the write-ups predict a future
of multiple WS championships for a given number of farmhands. As Indians fans, we know that this
pie-in-the-sky thinking needs to be balanced (that is, unless I missed the WS
Parade down Euclid, led by Cy Young Award winner Atom Miller with WS MVP Jordan
Brown riding shotgun) and that “balance” is why Al’s prospect lists – which
have become a Spring staple – are so essential.
By
not simply projecting these Minor Leaguers out as “best-case scenarios” for
MLB, player after player, comp and comp, Al strikes a delicate balance between
optimism and reality. Sure, he (like all
of us) would like to dream that Jesus Aguilar is going to come and settle 1B
into the 2020’s, but if Al is hearing something different from his network of
sources or if he has personally seen something that leads him to believe
differently, the rose-colored glasses remain tucked away with the pennant and
the Sharpie at home. Because this list
rises above the level of fanboy and provides a closer look into the system,
injecting a sense of reality that is often lacking in prospect lists.
That’s
not to say that Al isn’t biased – mainly to his catchers – but his balance
between numbers and scouting provides a welcome realistic look at this time
when we get to see a lot of these youngsters in Arizona in ST games and dream
on what might be. Because for a lot of
these guys (ahem…Lindor), “what might be” actually might come to pass…and soon;
but for the majority of them, enthusiasm and optimism needs to be properly
tempered and given the proper perspective. A balance that I’m proud to say that
Al strikes here in the 2014 Top Prospect Countdown.
Paul
C.
The
labor of love is finally complete. I always underestimate how much work this
prospect countdown is, somehow forgetting just how many hours of video,
pictures and notes that I pour over in an effort to somehow rank the talent in
the pipeline for the Cleveland Indians. It’s a really fun list to do, which is
why I continue to do it every year, but it’s also a lot of work. A big thanks
to Baseball Prospectus’ Stuart Wallace (who you can find on twitter
@TClippardsSpecs) for help in the editing process of this year’s list. There
would have been a lot more grammatical and spelling errors without Stuart, and
he was a huge help on the baseball side of things as well. Thanks also to Mike
Ferrin, Craig Goldstein, an unnamed NL scout (you know who you are) and of course
the original DiaTribe himself, Paul Cousineau for letting me pepper them with
questions and bounce ideas off of them this offseason. I hope you enjoy reading
this as much as I enjoyed writing it, and thanks as always for reading.
Photo Credit: Al Ciammaichella |
The
Indians have an interesting organization right now. They rank somewhere in the
middle of the minor league systems around baseball, but have a lot of potential
major league pieces scattered from AAA, all the way down to the complex
leagues. There is legitimate potential All-Star-caliber talent at the top, with
guys like Clint Frazier, Francisco Lindor and even the much-maligned Trevor
Bauer. After those three, there’s a nice balance of young kids with huge upside
(who also carry huge risk) as well as players without All-Star potential, but
who are close to finished products and should be productive major leaguers. The
system is still heavy on young, toolsy, up-the-middle players. They are heavy
on SS, 2B, C and CF, which are traditionally the most challenging positions to
fill on the diamond. Not all of those players are going to stick up the middle,
and not all of them are going to make it to the major leagues. If Francisco
Lindor is who we all hope he is, Ronny Rodriguez, Dorssys Paulino, Erik
Gonzalez and the other SS in the org are going to have to move off the position
or become trade bait at some point.
The
system is thin on starting pitching. Trevor Bauer still has front of the
rotation potential, but he could also tinker his way to a long and frustrating career
of yo-yoing between AAA and the major leagues. College relievers Cody Anderson
and Dace Kime are intriguing arms, but they have the ceiling of a solid #3. For
the Indians to get an internal boost in the rotation this year, it’s going to
have to come from a guy making a Salazar-type leap this season or through
trading for someone else’s amateur talent.
The
bullpen is a different story. The Indians have several options on the farm who
are ready to step into the Bullpen Mafia, as soon as this season. Guys like
Austin Adams, C.C. Lee, Kyle Crockett and Shawn Armstrong are names that we
could see at the corner of Carnegie and Ontario if injury or ineffectiveness
strikes the major league bullpen this season. These guys aren’t all ranked
highly simply because a bullpen arm is easier to obtain than a starting pitcher
or middle infielder, but because they can be important pieces of a major league
club.
A
quick glossary of some of the scouting terms you’ll see throughout the list:
The Five Tools: Hit, power, run,
throw, and fielding. The power tool is raw power; how far a guy can hit a BP
fastball. An All-Star level power tool with a replacement level hit tool won’t
allow that power to show up in games. So you’ll see me talk about both raw power
and game power potential.
OFP: Optimal Future Projection. The
absolute best-case scenario for a guy.
RFP: Reasonable Future Projection.
Neither an optimistic nor a pessimistic projection, but a realistic look at
what a player will turn into.
Scouting scale: Goes from
20-80, generally shortened to 2-8. Will also see 5+, fringe 5, etc. Grades of
80 (or 8) are incredibly rare, Hall-of-Fame potential tools. An example of 8
raw power is Giancarlo Stanton or Bryce Harper. No one in the Indians system
has 8 power.
Arm-side run: The tailing
action on a fastball towards the pitchers arm-side. Arm-side run for a RHP will
run inside on a RHB, the opposite action of a cutter.
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40. Gio Soto, RP
DOB: 5/18/1991
Height/Weight: 6-2/190 lbs.
Bats/Throws: Left/Left
Acquired: In a trade from
Detroit in exchange for Jhonny Peralta in 2010
2013 Stats: 0-1, 5.19 ERA
with 8 K and 9 BB in 8 2/3 IP for AAA Columbus
Scouting Report: Soto had a lost
2013, as he went down with an injury in May and didn’t pitch again the rest of
the season. Injuries are nothing new for the young southpaw from Puerto Rico,
as he’s struggled with elbow problems and nagging injuries to his lower half
throughout his five seasons as a professional. Soto has added a lot of weight
to his frame since coming over from the Tigers in 2010, as he was a very
slender 6’2”, 155 lbs when the Indians acquired him in exchange for SS Jhonny
Peralta. The Indians finally decided to move Soto to the bullpen last year,
something I’ve been advocating since 2011. It was thought that the move would
put Soto on the fast-track to a major league debut, but the injury derailed
that notion in a big way.
As
I’ve said in this space for the past two-plus years, Soto reminds me of former
Indians reliever Raffy Perez. His stuff is extremely comparable, as he features
a two-seam fastball and cutter that remind me a lot of Raffy Left. The two-seamer
has some nice arm-side run, and sits consistently between 88-91 MPH. The cutter
flashes plus, and it’s a pitch that some lefties swing at, even as it is about
to hit their back foot. He also throws a curveball and changeup, but in the
bullpen, he can be effective with the fastball and cutter alone. He’ll be
working in shorter stints and primarily against lefties, so there’s no real
reason for him to go three or four pitches deep. Simple and effective will be
the keys to Soto’s development, and if he can command his fastball to both
sides of the plate to get ahead of hitters and then put them away with the
cutter, he’s got a chance to be a piece of a major league bullpen for a long
time.
Soto
is a little strange, as during his career as a starter he actually has much
better numbers against righties than lefties. If he pares down his arsenal and
focuses on pitch sequencing and working specifically against left-handed
batters, his stuff projects best in the bullpen. But if he can’t stay healthy
and on the mound, he’s not going to make an impact anywhere. He should be back
in the bullpen for AAA Columbus to open the 2014 season, and it’ll be
interesting to see if he can make strides against lefties this season. If he
can’t convert himself into a lefty specialist, he’s a long shot to ever make it
to the major leagues.
Glass half-full: An effective
LOOGY
Glass half-empty: AAA swingman out
of the bullpen
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39. Bryson Myles, OF
DOB: 9/18/1989
Height/Weight: 5-11/230 lbs.
Bats/Throws: Right/Right
Acquired: 6th
round pick in the 2011 MLB Draft
2013 Stats: .285/.357/.427
with 8 HR and 52 RBI in 92 games with high-A Carolina
Scouting Report: Steady, but
unspectacular, Myles has posted an OPS between .734 and .795 in all three of
his professional seasons. Last year was the first time he didn’t steal exactly
20 bases, swiping 15 in 22 attempts with the Mudcats. He walked 32 times and struck
out 84 compared to 32 walks an 85 K in 2012. He hit exactly 20 2B and 2 3B in
each of the past two seasons. He racked up 144 total bases in 2013 after
tallying 140 in 2012. To say the least, Myles has been extremely consistent as
a professional since the Indians selected him in the 6th round of
the 2011 draft out of Stephen F. Austin State University. He missed the entire
month of May with a shoulder injury, and started a little slowly in June when
he returned to action. But from July 1 through the end of the season, Myles hit
an impressive .317/.391/.452 with 4 HR in 58 contests. It was a strong showing
to close out the season, and hopefully he can continue the momentum through to
2014.
At
the plate, Myles has an average hit tool and below-average power from the right
side. He was pretty pull-happy in 2011/12, and really worked hard on using all
fields at the plate last year. When Myles is staying back on the ball and using
all fields, he’s a much better hitter than when he gets out on his front foot
and tries to power everything out to left field. He has a level, line-drive
swing and does a nice job putting the bat on the ball. He’s an excellent
bunter, and has no hesitation dropping one down the line for a base hit if he
notices the 3B is playing back or napping.
Myles
has above-average speed and is an excellent baserunner. He has 55 stolen bases
in his career, and really runs well for his size. He doesn’t have the defensive
chops to handle CF though, and his arm is probably a tick below average so he
projects to LF long-term.
Myles
has always been a little old for the levels he’s played, and will likely open
2014 with AA Akron as a 24-year old. He projects best at this point as a 4th
outfielder, a guy who can play CF in a pinch, and provides speed and the
ability to play small ball off the bench. He’s a hard worker and will get the
most out of his tools and is a great guy to have in the organization.
Glass half-full: A 4th
OF and pinch runner off the bench in the big leagues
Glass half-empty: Organizational
depth
Photo Credit: Dave Monseur/Aeros |
38. Jeff Johnson, RP
DOB: 2/9/1990
Height/Weight: 6-0/185 lbs.
Bats/Throws: Right/Right
Acquired: 10th
round pick in the 2011 MLB Draft
2013 Stats: 0-1, 8 saves,
2.25 ERA with 50 K and 15 BB in 48 IP between high-A Carolina and AA Akron
Scouting Report: Johnson opened
eyes around the organization in 2012, when he struck out 75 in 58 2/3 innings
with 16 saves between Lake County and Carolina. He built on that 2012 with
another solid season last year, serving as one of the Mudcats closers before
getting the call up to Akron in July. Johnson’s numbers actually improved with
the promotion to AA, as his K rate went up while his walk rate and WHIP dropped
against Eastern League hitters. It was an encouraging season for the former 10th
round pick out of Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, and the 23-year old looks more and
more like a MLB bullpen piece every season.
Johnson
is simple but effective, throwing just two pitches, a fastball and a splitter.
The fastball sits in the 91-93 MPH range and can touch 95. He commands the
pitch well and generally uses it to get ahead in the count before throwing his
out pitch, a devastating splitter that dives down and out of the strike zone.
The splitter is a plus pitch, coming in on hitters in the high-80s and looking
very similar to his fastball. But the splitter tumbles down through the zone,
and is difficult to hit, much less lift with any sort of power. He allowed just
2 HR all of last season, one each with the Aeros and the Mudcats. The splitter
is a legitimate major league pitch and between it and the fastball, Johnson has
a future as a power reliever.
Johnson
wasn’t a highly regarded arm coming out of college and was selected in the 10th
round partly for his signability. However, he’s a prime example of how it can
be better to do one or two things exceedingly well than try to do too much and
have their overall game suffer as a result. I’ll take a guy with two
above-average to plus pitches over a guy with four or five below-average to
average pitches any day. Johnson should be back in Akron to open the 2014
season, but could move quickly to Columbus based on his performance and how
things shake in the AAA and major league bullpens this season.
Glass half-full: A power RP in
the back end of a ML bullpen
Glass half-empty: The splitter
stops splitting, and Johnson starts getting hit hard
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37. Shawn Morimando, SP
DOB: 11/20/1992
Height/Weight: 5-11/170 lbs.
Bats/Throws: Left/Left
Acquired: 19th
round pick in the 2011 MLB Draft
2013 Stats: 8-13, 3.73 ERA
with 102 K and 76 BB in 135 IP for high-A Carolina
Scouting Report: Morimando put
together a solid season for the Carolina Mudcats as a 20-year old last year.
His ERA actually rose by a half run after a disastrous final start on Sept. 1
when he gave up 7 ER in just 2 IP, so those numbers could’ve looked even better
if he’d just not started that last game of the season for the Mudcats. Drafted
out of Ocean Lakes High School in Virginia Beach, Morimando has risen steadily
through the ranks despite less than dominant stuff. He threw just six innings
in the complex leagues after he was drafted, but the Indians skipped him over
short-season ball entirely and had him pitch all of 2012 with Lake County.
Bumped up to the Carolina League last year, Morimando held his own against more
experienced hitters, which is always an encouraging sign. To give you an idea
of how young Morimando was for the level, just 32 of the 583 hitters he faced
last season were younger than he was. Despite the young age, Morimando was
still able to feature an 80-grade moustache last year.
Morimando
is a command and control lefty who does a nice job inducing weak contact with
his deceptive stuff. He throws three pitches, mixing in a curveball and changeup
in addition to his fastball. His fastball sits between 86-89, but plays up a
little due to some deception in his delivery. Coming from a ¾ arm slot, it has
nice arm-side run and sink. His curveball is his best secondary pitch, a big,
sweeping offering that comes in and runs across the strike zone. It’s an
especially effective pitch against lefties, and helped Morimando hold
same-siders to a .194/.318/.266 line in 2013 (.584 OPS). Development of the
changeup will be key for Morimando, as it will give him a more effective pitch
against right-handed batters. Righties put up a .732 OPS against Morimando last
year, so those are some pretty distinct platoon splits.
Morimando
is a good athlete, with a very clean, repeatable delivery. He’s an intelligent
pitcher who will get the most out of his tools. His walk rate needs to come
down, as a guy who pitches to contact the way Morimando does won’t be able to
sustain a sub-4.00 ERA with a walk rate of 5.1/9 IP the way he did last season.
If Morimando can command his fastball in the zone and pitch effectively to both
sides of the plate, he’ll continue to find success as he climbs the
organizational ladder. If he can refine his changeup and become more effective
against righties in addition to lefties, then he’d be a legit SP prospect. As
of now though, his RFP is a lefty out of the bullpen.
Glass half-full: A back-end
starter
Glass half-empty: A left-handed
reliever
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36. Trey Haley, RP
DOB: 6/21/1990
Height/Weight: 6-3/180 lbs.
Bats/Throws: Right/Right
Acquired: 2nd
round pick in the 2008 MLB Draft
2013 Stats: 1-4, 7 saves
with a 4.70 ERA, 46 K and 39 BB in 44 IP for AA Akron
Scouting Report: I’ve long been
high on Haley, but 2013 was a big step backwards for the big right-hander out
of Nacogdoches, TX. Haley posted a career-worst 8 BB/9 for the Aeros last year,
struggling with his command for the entire season. When he was in the strike
zone, Haley was pretty good; AA batters hit just .239 off of him with a .297
SLG. He gave up just nine XBH, all of them doubles. But based primarily on the
sky-high walk rate, Haley allowed a .416 OBP against him, a rate far, far too
high to be an effective pitcher out of the bullpen (or the rotation, for that
matter). I watched Haley pitch in July of last year when the Aeros were
visiting the Bowie Baysox. Aeros pitching coach Greg Hibbard was working with
Haley on his glove placement through his delivery, trying to ensure that Haley
kept his glove low and use it to pull himself through his delivery. Haley took
Hibbard’s instruction well, and went out and got a save that night. He retired
the side in order with one strikeout and was really in command of his stuff.
Unfortunately for Haley, that was the exception rather than the rule in 2013.
Haley
began his career as a starter and has a deeper repertoire of pitches than most
relievers. His arsenal starts with one of the best fastballs in the
organization, a four-seamer that sits between 94-96 and has touched triple
digits in the past. He compliments the plus heat with a sinking two-seamer and
both a curveball and slider. The curveball is his best secondary offering, a
big, 11-5 breaker that can really freeze hitters because of the difference in
velocity between that pitch and his fastball. It helps Haley change the eye level
of hitters, and can help him get more swings at his high heat than he otherwise
might. The slider is very tight with late life, and comes in looking a lot like
his fastball. It’s inconsistent right now, but can be a weapon for Haley if he
can get better command of the pitch. He even mixes in the occasional changeup,
a pitch that can be particularly effective when he has a hitter sitting on his
fastball.
When
he’s in the strike zone, Haley can be a dominant relief pitcher. In July of
last year, he put up a miniscule 0.68 ERA with 12 K and 6 BB in 13 1/3 IP. He
converted all three of his save opportunities that month, showing a tantalizing
glimpse of his raw potential. But he lost whatever momentum he was building in August,
when he went 0-3 with a 5.68 ERA in 12 2/3 IP (10 BB, 15 K). Haley has the raw
stuff of a backend reliever. But if he can’t command it within the strike zone,
he’s never going to make it past AAA. Haley was added to the 40-man roster in
2013, but was outrighted off the 40-man to make room for closer John Axford
this winter. No other clubs claimed Haley off waivers, so he remains in the
organization and was assigned to AAA Columbus. If Haley can refine his delivery
and harness his outstanding stuff, he could be an 8th or 9th
inning guy in the major leagues. Time will tell if he can make the necessary
mechanical adjustments though, as for now he looks less likely to make it to
the majors than he did at this point in 2013.
Glass half-full: A dominant, back-end
reliever
Glass half-empty: AAA version of
bad Mitch Williams
8 comments:
Love these, Al, and can't wait for more.
Hi Al, I've been looking forward to this almost as much as the first game on STO on Tuesday. Great work, and I look forward as we count up!
I'm curious to see when we'll see the first legit SP prospect on this list--i.e., not a guy like Soto, Morimando, or Haley who ultimately profile to the pen. Like you said, SP is a weak spot for this organization, but here's hoping we have some guys from the last 2 amateur drafts break out in Lake County or Carolina this year.
Thanks Adam, appreciate it!
Mark, you'll see a couple more 'maybe' SP guys tomorrow, but the first guy who I'm really comfortable projecting as a member of a major league rotation is still several spots away. I'm still a believer in the potential for guys like Brown and Lovegrove, but they're both going to have to take concrete steps forward this season after treading water in 2013. Thanks for the kind words, and hope you enjoy the rest of the list!
Morimando and Haley obviously both have significant control problems. I assume this has something to do with the mechanics of their delivery. In your view, what odds would you give one or both of them being able to work out their issues?
In Haley's case, I think it's a combination of his size, injuries and mechanical inconsistencies. He's dealt with a variety of injuries that he's tried to compensate for with his mechanics, and that's made it difficult for him to establish a consistent, repeatable delivery. His glove hand is a big deal for him; if he keeps it tucked in towards his elbow and it doesn't fly up and away from his body, he's usually keeping the ball down and in the strike zone. If not, he's in trouble.
I've only seen Morimando pitch once, and he actually had his control working that time. His delivery looked smooth and repeatable, and he only walked 1 in 5 2/3 innings (if I remember right). The walks could be a consequence of him nibbling with less than overpowering stuff, but I haven't seen him enough to make a good judgement.
I'm still a believer in the potential for guys like Brown and Lovegrove, but they're both going to have to take concrete steps forward this season after treading water in 2013.
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I'm still a believer in the potential for guys like Brown and Lovegrove, but they're both going to have to take concrete steps forward this season after treading water in 2013.
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